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Quincy

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NHL Presents Creative Counter-Offer at Bargaining Session
TORONTO (December 14, 2004) - The National Hockey League today presented a counter-proposal to the NHL Players' Association during a collective bargaining session at the NHL office. The full text of the counter-proposal is available on NHLCBANEWS.com.

Following the meeting, NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman addressed the media at Air Canada Centre. Following are excerpts from his remarks:


"We studied the (Players' Association) proposal extensively and we discussed it with each of our 30 clubs. The unanimous conclusion was the Union's proposal does not work. It is dramatic in its immediate, short-term impact, but is fatally flawed as a system going forward."

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"Clearly, the 24% rollback is an essential agreement in the implementation of a new system -- the Union has admitted as much. However, the rollback is not, in and of itself, a new system."

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"If you accept everything the Union says will result from their proposal, the players will receive 56.6% of our revenues on Day 1 of a new agreement. To repeat, the players' proposal translates to 56.6%. We countered at 54% ... So if we cannot make an agreement with such a modest gap to bridge, it must be because the Union does not believe that the system will reduce costs to the 56.6% level and keep them there. And the result -- perhaps the Union's hope -- will be the resumption of the inflationary spiral."

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"If the Union does not come forward now, it proves that the Union leadership knows full well that under the Union's proposal, the fundamental failures of our current system will not change and we will be right back where we were in, at best, a couple of years."

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"The Union's offer of the rollback was a great start. Now, let's get together and fix the system the right way."

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"We accepted the principle of the 24% rollback -- however, we restructured which players would give back, and how much they would give back, by proposing a graduated rollback scale.

"Under our counter-proposal, any player making less than $800,000 would not see his salary diminished at all.

"Under our proposal, the reduction for a player making between $800,000 and $1.49 million would be 15%.

"The reduction for a player making $1.5 million to $1.99 million would be 20%.

"The reduction for a player making $2 million to $3.99 million would be the 24% the Union Leadership offered.

"The reduction for a player making between $4 million and $4.99 million would be 30% ...

"And the reduction for a player making $5 million or more would be 35%.

"731 of our players -- 91.8% -- would be at or below the Union's proposed 24%."

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"The players' proposal to reduce current contracts is a big-time, significant and meaningful move. ... The Union has agreed to in effect 'reset the dial.' And for that we are most appreciative."

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"By its offer, the Union finally has acknowledged the magnitude of our losses. Despite all of the Union's rhetoric to the contrary, the Union has confirmed the accuracy of our financial reporting. There is no other rational explanation for a $269-million reduction on contracts for this season."

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"I will confirm something very important that we repeated to the Union: We have not sought -- and are not seeking now -- the elimination of guaranteed contracts. That is a bogus issue."

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"We proposed to the Union that we would agree to a structure so that the median salary could stay where it is ($800,000 in '03-'04 for players who played in the NHL).

"We also proposed increasing the minimum annual player salary to $300,000 (a 62.2% increase), when the Union only proposed an increase to $250,000."

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"We made a detailed system proposal -- a 'salary range' -- which, based on last year's economics, would see team player costs between $38.6 million and $34.6 million."

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"Much like the one earlier proposal made by the Union, the rest of this proposal simply modifies the current system, which we have stated many times needs a radical restructuring. The changes to the Entry Level System; Arbitration, Qualifying Offers, and the use of a Payroll or Luxury Tax will not create a healthy and viable league."

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"We demonstrated in hard numbers that if we accepted the Union's proposal and framework, we would be back in the same position -- best case -- within two to three years."

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"We are certain that under the Union's proposal, rapid inflation will begin immediately, the losses will begin to mount quickly and nothing will have changed for the future."

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"We accepted the Union proposal on changes to the Entry Level System, with the proviso that all bonuses be eliminated. The bonuses -- the so-called 'model' -- have created a construct for the circumvention of the Entry Level System. It is why the system has not worked as was originally intended."

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"The Payroll Tax proposal is meaningless, even under the projections made by the Union. I do not need to tell you once again why we do not think Luxury or Payroll Taxes work. We haven't changed our minds ...

"Look at the Union's proposal on its face: No tax until $45 million. If every team went to $45 million, there would be no taxes paid and our player cost would be what they are now. With a $50 million payroll, a team would pay a $1 million tax -- we could pay out 80% of revenues, more than the 74% under old CBA -- without triggering more than a $1 million tax per team. That won't do anything."

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"Salary Arbitration is inflationary -- very inflationary. This one is easy. We said it must be eliminated."

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"As to Qualifying Offers and the other proposals -- They either do not provide meaningful relief or will need further discussion when we finally have a new system in which these elements will operate. They can all be discussed at a later point."

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"We also proposed liberalizing the requirement for unrestricted free agency, acknowledging that the 31-year-old age limit was negotiable downward."
 

Quincy

Ice-Fisher
Da_Chritsche schrieb:
Dazu gibt es schon nen Thread in der Sportwelt

Ja stimmt, hatte ich sogar auch mitgepostet, konnte mich nur nicht mehr daran erinnern.

Und wo ist jetzt das Problem? Oder wolltest du mir nur freundlich Bescheid geben?

Verstehe ja das es langweilt, wenn zu einem Thema 50 Threads eroeffnet werden, aber nach 2 Monaten ein zweiter Thread sollte nun wirklich nicht stoeren. Da finde ich es deutlich unangenehmer erst im Archiv nachgucken zu muessen ob es schonmal was zum Thema gab. Wie du siehst bin ich kein grosser Fan von Forumsbuerokratie.
 

Aimar

Frauensportbeauftragter
"We made a detailed system proposal -- a 'salary range' -- which, based on last year's economics, would see team player costs between $38.6 million and $34.6 million."

Glaube kaum das sich die NHLPA darauf einlassen wird. :suspekt:
 

Quincy

Ice-Fisher
Aimar schrieb:
Glaube kaum das sich die NHLPA darauf einlassen wird. :suspekt:

Es ist zu befuerchten.....

Das Schlimmste dabei: Die Trainingshalle der Rangers (wenn denn Saison waere) ist nur 2 Minuten zu Fuss von mir entfernt, nett am Strand gelegen. Mein Nachbar hat vorgestern erzaehlt, dass man die Spieler dann oft antrifft, manchmal parken die sogar in unserer kleinen Strasse...hm dann lasse ich sie abschleppen :024:

Momentan spielt in der Halle nur das lokale Dorfteam...eher uninteressant
 
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